[Afamilyatwar-list] Random queries

Tue May 1 05:13:06 CDT 2018

Adrian Boult, a giant among British conductors, released a set in the early 1950s of what was at that time 8 of the eventual 9 Vaughan Williams symphonies. The format was 33 1/3. Whether there were other formats I do not know. Boult conducted the London Philharmonic. In the late 1960s Boult recorded in stereo the complete 9 for EMI with the New Philharmonia and London Philharmonic. It was only through correspondence here that I discovered producer Richard Doubleday chose (at least) the theme music. William Murphy set me straight about music selection on The Onedin Line. Again, what formats (tape, LP, 78s) were used by the productions I cannot say. I have enough difficulty mangling the facts I thought I knew.
Blast!
Scott

On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 5:48 AM, Brian Renforth via Afamilyatwar-list <afamilyatwar-list at baylor.edu> wrote:

It always surprised me that the theme credit was always absent from the end credit run. I would imagine Granada must've received queries at the time of original broadcast.

Richard has provided details on his excellent site though. I see it was recorded in 1949. It clearly originates on tape rather than 78rpm record, so uncertain if it was ever commercially released. If I'm wrong please correct me!

I see a 1967 recording does exist however. Again conducted by Sir Adrian Boult but performed by the New Philharmonic Orchestra. Issued on CD in 1986, presumably on vinyl before that. Don't know how it compares to the original recording however. Presumably it'll be a stereo rendition.

Brian 

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and there may also be separate copyrights which require  payment  in the arrangement , and the performance 

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Now that I think of it, all the composers (Khachaturian, Mahler, Vaughan Williams, Walton, Prokofiev, etc) used on the Onedin Line are quite recent with respect to transmission time, so, given copyright law, they were still under copyright (as opposed, I suppose, to Beethoven or Schubert). I didn’t think that through. Many of these composers’ works cannot be downloaded for that very reason. Faulty thinking on my part! Blimey!!

On Monday, April 30, 2018, 7:47 PM, Scott Filderman <scottfilderman at yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you for that clarification! The music selected is always wonderful and appropriate! I apologize for my rigorous ignorance!

On Monday, April 30, 2018, 7:43 PM, William Murphy via Afamilyatwar-list <afamilyatwar-list at baylor.edu> wrote:

Two points. One: the producers didn't make the choices of music for the Onedin Line -I did, at least for the last two series (check my credit!). Two: far from being public domain, the music cost a fortune in copyright and mechanical clearances. It would not have cost much more to commission original music.
Bill (Scanlan) Murphy

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Why do you assume these pieces of music are" public domain" Scott ?Do you mean by in the " public domain",  out of copyright ?

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Do executive producers tend to choose music used on a series. Apparently, Richard Doubleday came up with the inspired notion to use that bit of Vaughan Williams as the theme music for AFAW. The producers for The Onedin Line certainly made wonderful choice of (cheap public domain) selections of classical music: Mahler’s First and Seventh symphonies accompany sea activities, and Prokofiev’s Romeo and Juliet suggest more than is happening in the earlyscenes of Series Three of The Onedin Line. Gor bless a pooblic domain!

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